“Hip-Hop is dead.” If you are in tune to the world of hip-hop at all, as of late I guarantee you’ve heard that at least once. Am I right? What does that statement even mean? Not too long ago, I was in the car with my girlfriend and her mom and her mom’s boyfriend. He had on some old school 80’s rap. Listening to this it struck me how simple it really used to be. The beats didn’t really matter, in fact the lyrics were even simple. There wasn’t much creativity to it at all. There was more of a focus on the poetry of rap, almost spoken word-esque. Coming to this realization, I thought it was interesting how drastically that has shifted. Now it’s all about the EXPERIENCE; the music as a whole. That’s where the idea for this piece started.
Originally, I was just going to have Lonny come on and speak on this, but then I had the idea when they dropped their track “Twitter Rappers” to expand my idea to that area too. The term “twitter rapper” has such a negative connotation to it, and I thought it interesting how these individuals (Schama Noel included) were being labelled as this in their pioneering movement. That being said, I decided why not turn this into an expose on these guys and see their opinion on “twitter rappers” and the overall changing nature of hip-hop. Unfortunately, Schama was too busy to join us, but I was still able to get together with WhoIsLonny, Spazzy D, and SlyRex in a group interview to talk about all the above and more. What ensued was…. awesome.
These guys are the next generation of hip-hop and after talking to them, i’m proud to know of them so early on in their career. What really struck me was their chemistry, their maturity and awareness of the world around them, and their age (Lonny only being 16). Their awareness of the world and their insights on the topics i brought up was extraordinary, they brought up lots of great perspectives and opinions on the subject matter, but it was still fun. We would go from talking about something very serious to comparing who is the ugliest of the group by bringing up pictures; Lonny to an Alpaca, Sly to the kid from the old cartoon Rocket Power, and Spazzy to a Koala with glasses. Read the interview below to get to know who these guys are, what makes them special, the latest on their new projects, their thoughts on “Twitter rappers” and the changing nature of hip-hop. Then, come to your own conclusions, is hip-hop dead? Or just evolving? Is that good? Or bad? How do you feel about “Twitter rappers” and the movement that these guys and Schama have started? Let us and them know after reading!
Tyler (CXS): To start things off, introduce yourselves! Speak on who you are, some background information, influences, and what makes you special as an artist/creative!
“Thru music I’m still trying to figure out who i am and i’m also trying to convey to YOU thru my music who I am.”
Spazzy: I’m Ashton! I was born in Indianapolis, moved to Jackson, TN. I first started taking my music serious only last year. It started out as a place for me to filter my emotions. The poetic nature and fact that i make all my music clean is what can make my music special, in my opinion. I always try to make all my music clean so that way it can be enjoyed across all scales, from really young to really old. Yah, that’s about me in a nutshell!
Sly: My name is Ezra, i was born in Buffalo, NY. We moved around a lot, from Va to MI etc. I grew up on rap, well rap, reggae, and R&B. That was something i always really admired growing up. At about age 8-9 i taught myself to play the piano, then the guitar, violin, trumpet, everything. I got really fascinated with musical instruments and arrangements and soon after started trying to make my own beats and stuff. My older cousin really influenced me because he always thought i had a special way with words and he thought i should channel that energy. I then started writing raps for the music i was already writing. At first my folks were really receptive to the idea of me rapping, as an outlet. Once they heard some of what i was saying and rapping about tho that stopped and it kind of got swept under the rug from there. A few years later i picked it back up at about the age of 12. I have been working real hard at it since then, only started putting my music online in the past 6 months. In that time i’ve been shown a lot of love and met a lot of cool people (Spazzy and Lonny included). When it comes to my music i’m not trying to sell people on it so much as it’s a really a focus on the emotion. Like if you can connect to something i say, that just hits home to you then my song or lyric is for you. It doesn’t have to be everything as long as that one part or word hits you. Yah that’s pretty much who i am as a person and a musician.
Spazzy: That was a good answer.
Sly: Pressure’s on Lonny… Preasure’s on haha *mockingly*
Lonny: I’m Lonny, formerly known as Lonny Coldchain, dropped the coldchain because like i felt like that wasn’t me. That was just a name i came up with when i first started and i just outgrew it so i changed it to WhoIsLonny? Thru music i’m still trying to figure out who i am and i’m also trying to convey to YOU thru my music who i am. Some background, i was born in TN, moved around a lot. Came to Orlando when i was like 9-10. I never really paid attention to rap music, growing up my mom always played music like John Legend CD’s and such. In 8-9th grade my friend got killed in the neighborhood, that shit was a hard time so i started writing about it. It wasn’t supposed to be raps or anything like that and it just turned into poetry. I started turning that into raps. In 10th grade i moved to Indiana for like 6-7 months and i didn’t have anything to do up there, so i just started rapping and practicing. When i came back to Orlando i got some equipment and started recording stuff. Then i put it out and i got fortunate that people on the internet and stuff showed me so much love, dudes like Schama and that got me where my fanbase is now and then i met Sly and Spazzy via twitter and that just like changed my life. These are two of the coolest dudes i know and i’m just fortunate that i got all this just from doing this music shit.
Spazzy: I actually wanna add something! Yall added musical influences, i feel like that’s really important. Like i didn’t even like hip-hop, my first experience was horrible. It was like really loud, hardcore gangsta rap. Every weekend my dad and i would clean up around the house and he’d play the oldies of R&B. Growing up i always wanted to sing but since i couldn’t sing i kinda fell on the next best thing. So i essentially became a rapper by default. I never really appreciated the genre and even today i’m still learning to appreciate it. I’d say right now it’s starting to rebuild itself, so in that case i think it’s funny that i am a hip-hop artist because i’ve never really liked hip-hop all that much, it’s ironic. I just felt like i had to speak that and say that.
Tyler: Ok so sticking with the theme of background and such, one question i always bring up with artists is where- and Lonny kind of already spoke on this- where does the inspiration for your names come from?
Lonny: Spazzy D stole his name from someone…
Spazzy: Nahhhh hahaha It was back when Jerking was a thing, ya know the whole dance movement era thing. This was back in like middle school it was popping for me so i asked my cousin what would be like a cool/fly name for me to be a jerker? I wanted to be cool because i was a lame band kid growing up, i thought Jerking would be what would make me cool. Anyway my cousin said she knew this jerker by the name of Spazzy and he had retired everything related to that, like he didn’t dance or anything anymore. She said people had really liked that name, that it was kind of funky. So at first i thought the name was kind of wack, but the idea of it having this history behind it kind of intrigued me and then people started just calling me Spazzy so i tacked the D on the end and became Spazzy D. So yah, that’s pretty much me.
Sly: People LOVE asking me that question haha. I had one kid come up to me and say that my name sounded like a DBZ (Dragon Ball Z) character. I didn’t really know how to take that haha. I had a lot of rap names, i knew i was good but the one thing i knew would be my downfall was that i couldn’t come up with a good name hahaha. My first name was Raze, that was horrible. Then it was SDR which was an acronym that i’m not even going to tell you what it stands for it was so wack. Then my homie made a song called “Sly” which was about me, because he used to call me SlyPyRex. I have no clue why or where that came from but i was like bro, I’m gunna take this and go with it, and he was like go for it, i already call you that, let everyone else. So i just combined the names and shortened it to SlyRex and just ran with it ever since.
“When you kneel down and look into the water, a creek or whatever, you see your reflection. So I’m forcing the listener to look within them self and ask if they are where they wanna be right now.“
Tyler: Awesome! So another thing i found really interesting was that all of you guys (including Schama) have projects dropping THIS year. Did you wanna speak on that at all, details, the plan etc?
Sly: Yah i got a project, it’s called “Searching for Daisy” that is thematically based off of The Great Gatsby. In a very subtle way, not directly related to the story or anything, it’s more about the vibes. It drops April 27th. It’s my most solid and concise piece of work for sure, only 9 songs. It features Lonny and Spazzy, as well as some of my other good friends. I’m dropping first. Next is either Spazzy or Schama.
Spazzy: It won’t be Lonny for sure.
Lonny: Bro i only got two songs done for it, i know what the vision is and such but it’s just lacking the content right now.
Spazzy: So, uhm, my project i’ve been working on it seriously since like last November. It was after a close friend of mine and I had gotten into it, i don’t even remember the details but that’s what inspired me to start working. It’s not venting tho, instead i turned it into something different. Mick Jenkins “The Water[s]” also dropped and HEAVILY inspired me. It actually kind of changed my life. “Thank god for the waters”. The metaphor for the project is water. And the way i see the whole water metaphor is purification of the mind, body, and soul. Ya know, despite all the corruption and bad energy in the world, still see the positive light. And the other metaphor is self-reflection. When you kneel down and look into the water, a creek or whatever, you see your reflection. So i’m forcing the listener to look within them self and ask if they are where they wanna be right now. Are they happy? Are they the person their mother raised? Really challenging the listener to think about if they are living the life they want, to really question their life. I’m telling the listener a lot about my life and my trials and tribulations and hope that they can find some self-reassurance thru my experience, and how that made me question my life.
Sly: By the way i didn’t mention it, but my project “Searching for Daisy” *continues to plug the title of his project like 10 times in a joking manner as we all laugh* i just dropped the first single from it titled “Rich”, i appreciate that you spare my feelings, uhm this song i really like a lot. Actually Lonny was the one who convinced me to drop this one as my single instead of another song. If you like Rich, i promise you you will like “Searching for Daisy”. It’s not the best song on the project but it is very reflective of the themes and sound of the project. I know i’m dropping before Schama so i know yall ain’t listening to anything yet so give it a shot *laughs*.
Tyler: Lonny did you wanna speak on the vision you had at all? I know you mentioned the project wasn’t there content wise but you had your vision planned for it.
Lonny: So 2PAC came to me in a dream one night… nahhh haha, the vision i had is from an old 2003 Japanese film called “Oldboy”. I just saw it for the first time like 2 weeks ago and watching it i just had a moment.. i was like damn… if you saw it you would know what i’m talking about. So the movie is like this dude who is locked in a motel room for like 15 years and he doesn’t know why, and i was like damn that’s a metaphor for like the world and everything just kind of clicked and made sense. After that even tho i don’t have much for content i feel like it’s definitely going in the right direction. Since the name change i’ve been making like different sounds and stuff.
Sly: Yah just before this man Lonny showed us his new song from the project and we worked on a song for Spazzy’s project. Don’t sleep. These projects are gunna be incredible man.
Tyler: With all of you dropping projects this year, and being so close and connected is there anything official between you guys? Like an official collective or anything like that?
Lonny: Well we definitely have crazy chemistry between the three of us.
Tyler: I agree, I can see it thru the way you guys interact here, in the music and thru social media clowning around and such even.
Lonny: Yah we haven’t talked about it but we’ve definitely thought about it. The other day on twitter Sly tweeted out asking who would be who if we were TDE and that just got me thinking. Like damn that would be tight if we were on some collective shit! We haven’t spoke about it or anything but it’s possible.
Sly: Man we ARE a collective. Don’t let him tell you that. Man, Lonny is lying to you right now.
Spazzy: Lonny is lying to you right now.
Sly: We tryna buy a house!
Lonny: Ok, ok. Imma be real, imma be real. We ARE tryna buy a house.
Spazzy: It’s going to be such a great process. To see us, and for our listeners to see us maneuver the way we are from separate cities and states. We already have that chemistry and that connection. To have our fans really grow with us. From the oovoo calls to being in the same house, under the same roof. Watching that evolution of us as individual artists and as a group is just something to be documented. Ya know, something for the books. It’s just going to be such an amazing journey and that’s why i show so much love to people already rocking with us now. Because that journey is going to be amazing, something to really look back on and be talked about.
Tyler: You know that’s kind of where I got the idea for this, well at first it started with the changing nature of hip-hop. After talking to Lonny and hearing the new track “Twitter Rappers” I was like, ‘alright why don’t I expand my idea to cover this because there are mixed opinions about it out there. I feel like you guys as a whole are like the “poster boys” for this new movement of so called “twitter rap”, especially since Schama kind of came and brought you under his wing. I feel like the term “twitter rap” has such a negative connotation to it, which arose from something which was not serious and meant as a joke. Then, Schama came along and kind of flipped that idea on its ass as he kind of pioneered/fathered this idea and movement because he was like the first one to perfect the method. With you guys behind him, you aren’t something to joke about. Like you all really care about the craft and are very talented and creative at what you do. So what are some of your thoughts on the label of “twitter rapper” and the changing nature of things to becoming more technologically based and accessible?
“Some people have only heard of my work from a youtube video, am I a ‘YouTube Rapper’? Some people have only heard of me thru coffee shop performances, am I a “Coffee Shop Rapper”? These are all just venues we have utilized to reach a particular point.”
Lonny: The term “twitter rapper” sometimes really irritates me and sometimes it’s cool because like we are starting a movement, like it’s a new age. With the power of social media and the internet and what not, i feel like a lot of people will be coming up thru those mediums AFTER us. So it’s like we are kind of pioneers in this.
Spazzy: I love it. I love the term “twitter raper”. To be honest with you. Well, ok it’s 50/50 actually. I feel like it’s the NAME. Like i don’t even name any of my projects mixtapes anymore because i feel the title just devalues the art of it. So being called a “twitter rapper” kind of de-credits us of all the work that is put into the project just because our outlet is twitter. Viners aren’t called “Vine Comedians”. I enjoy it to an extent because i enjoy being the underdog. Like being on the radar but still under it allows you to still grow. I really like that, growing. Once you are at a level like say Drake you just chill. I like the work. If you look at Drake’s music right now you can tell he’s kind of just taking it easy. He isn’t hungry anymore because he is already eating. We aren’t eating, we’re hungry, we’re starving ya know?
Sly: Personally man, speaking on this “twitter rap” stuff. It just depends on how you are using the label. Honestly I really just question, you know, anybody’s motive behind having to use a particular label like “twitter rapper” in general. All of us, the extent of our music isn’t just sitting in our bedroom and putting out music on twitter. It’s not like we have never even left our rooms. That’s not the extent of our work or process. Some people have only heard of my work from a youtube video, am i a “Youtube Rapper”? Some people have only heard of me thru coffee shop performances, am i a “Coffee Shop Rapper”? These are all just venues we have utilized to reach a particular point. I feel like they only stop calling you a twitter rapper when you selling out shows all over and what not. I really don’t like the title, but i’m definitely not militant about it. If that is the extent of what you know about me, that’s fine. We can operate on that. Just listen to the music and understand that myself, Lonny, and Spazzy are more than that. We aren’t artists only on twitter. Our music and our process has a lot more impact and extends a lot further. That’s just how i feel about that.
Lonny: It’s just the whole thing about being labelled and the negativity that is behind that. We aren’t spamming our music or anything like that, and it’s a shame that we have to be associated to those people. We just happen to fall under that category. But at the end of the day it doesn’t matter because, like, we know we are better than that. It’s just the label, why can’t i just be a kid rapping? That happens to use this as a platform because he lives in a city that isn’t big enough to have A&R’s and what not. There are only like 6-7 cities, and if you don’t live in those cities it’s hard. If you don’t live in Chicago, LA, Atlanta, NY, or Miami it’s hard for you to be put out there on a broader platform. It’s like, i know Spazzy was talking about how after high school he wants to move out to LA. Honestly, if he stays in Indianapolis, and that’s a bigger city, he’s not going to reach his full potential staying there. He has to go somewhere where he can be put on a broader platform and i feel the same way. I can’t stay here, how many rappers do you know out of Orlando? I’m thinking my options are either go to Miami or go to LA. If i REALLY wanna shake that label of a “twitter rapper” up. In two years, not even, when i graduate high school i don’t wanna be called a twitter rapper anymore. I don’t feel like if i’ve made money off of this, i should be called a twitter rapper, ya feel me? That’s just how i feel. It’s just like the negative connotation that comes with the label. I don’t really care tho because i feel like we are being pioneers anyway. People will look back and be like, “Damn.. those niggas was spittin. They were the first niggas that were twitter rappers.”
Tyler: I kind of mentioned earlier the changing nature of hip-hop, from less of a focus on the poetry to more of a focus on the musical experience itself. With lyricism making its come back today how do you kind of feel about that?
Sly: Personally, i say lots of people like to say that since rap doesn’t sound like its supposed “golden age”, with minimalistic beats and just bars, that hip-hop has died. I REALLY beg to differ. I feel like, first of all, hip-hop is very multi-faceted. It’s not just one lane. There are lyricists, then there are people like Chance The Rapper who is very extravagant in his approach. If it’s not the lyrics then it’s the melody, if it’s not the melody then it’s the instrumentation. Different people have different ways of conveying a particular feeling or experience. Which is all unique to the artist. You mention specifically the shift from poetry to the experience, i honestly (and it’s an unpopular opinion) think that’s a god evolution. I don’t think that anyone should ever have a pass for having like weak lyrics or anything. But it’s a beautiful thing when you can create an experience with music. OH! This is gunna be a plug real quick, my friend Jay Diem has a song called “Till the Angels Come” and i remember the first time i heard that song how moved i was. It was such a beautiful feeling, which is something that is very hard to create and only a few artists (Nas, J.Cole, Kendrick) can do. So i think it’s beautiful, that there are different types of rap. I think that anybody that says a shift in poetic rap, to music as an experience, is a bad thing are in the wrong. They just aren’t appreciating the emotion and the experience.
Spazzy: That was a good answer. I said earlier how i wasn’t really a fan of hip-hop to begin, like i am just now having to go back and do research. People give me such a hard time for not listening to guys like Nas, Biggie, PAC, etc. before, i have to go back and do research now. People really compliment me on the different sounds i experiment with, especially for hip-hop. I always wanna give trap/drill rappers a hard time, the people who come with the killing/AK’s/dropping bodies etc, but there is always someone who catches my ear. Right now i have this really strong ear for Rae Sremmurd, i call them the “best garbage ever”.
Sly: This your first interview ever and you already dissing niggas bro? I like Rae Sremmurd, i like Young Thug, i’ll listen to them.
Lonny: Young Thug?
Spazzy: See i like them too, when i say they are the “best garbage ever” it’s not that they are garbage, they know they aren’t lyricists. Just me personally, i feel like lyricism is almost everything. When i first started listening to hip-hop it was dudes like 50 Cent and G-Unit, so i was really listening to the lyrics and zoned in. So from there it was like, lyrics is what hip-hop is. With that mindset, anything i hear after that that isn’t lyrical is “garbage”. People give them a hard time for always turning up and what not, but i love it. Like 2 Chainz, you never have to understand what he is saying to enjoy it. It’ll always have my attention, he just has this swag that’ll make you interested regardless. People like Chance, Kid Cudi, Kendrick, J.Cole are making hip-hop more diverse and dragging it along with them; pretty much setting it up for the next generation. They are opening it up, Drake too, and making it ok for rappers to access their emotions and really be themselves on tracks. Take a Chief Keef, and that movement in Chicago, they have the young African American males feeling like they are killers, ya know? That is not the truth, if i were to ask your mom, i know for damn sure she wouldn’t say she raised you to shoot someone in the face. I just think that these rappers don’t realize the influence that music has, or their influence that is, on the youth. That’s why as my name, and our name, grows we use conceptual value in lyrics to convey the message that we are trying to put out.
Lonny: I love the shift in hip-hop. You compare the music from even just the 90’s and just the way the beat sounds in particular to today, you listen to a Chance song and it almost sounds like an R&B song, or another one might almost sound like a rock song. The lyricism even has changed and gotten deeper. You listen to 2PAC, their lyrics have meaning, but they weren’t creative. Everything was simple; 16 & hook. Now it has completely changed and i love it. Spazzy was talking about Rae Sremmurd being the “best garbage ever” and i honestly feel like you need some of that “garbage”. Every now and then i need to listen to a Migos song, to appreciate a Kendrick song. If everything was great, you would lose appreciation for it. I just wish they would play better stuff on the radio. That is what influences the younger generation and they grow up listening to that trash and that forms their opinion of what rap is. When that’s not what rap music is, that’s the opposite of what rap is.
Sly: You guys *shakes head* this man here *referring to me* is going to get us in lots of beef… “Lonny and company dis Rae Sremmurd, Migos…” *imitating a fake headline* and guess who the company part is? That’s me hahaha
This then leads into a quick break where we share many laughs and talk about who is uglier of the group. What really struck me here is the chemistry of these three, they are brothers. The only thing separating them is the blood in their bodies. Spazzy has an amazing laugh, like one of those laughs where you hear it and everyone else in the group just loses their shit.
Tyler: You know this is fun, your guys’ chemistry is crazy. And that is really important.
Sly: Yah bro, i talk to these guys EVERY day.
Spazzy: People start collectives, like look at where YMCMB is right now, they just started their collective with what they considered “good rappers”- GAHLY! I am really calling people out *laughs*
Sly: I mess with Lil Wayne, i mess with Drake, don’t do this to me… *in a mockingly pained voice*
Spazzy: I mess with them too, they all make great music. It’s just the chemistry wasn’t all there and that’s why they fell apart. Hip-hop needs to be FUN. There isn’t really any rap beef going on anymore, back in the day it was bloodshed. Now it’s kind of evolved into more of a friendlier sport.
We then went into another bout of laughter and a break after Lonny pulled up a track that a fan sent them expecting them to recognize that’s just horrible.
Sly: No don’t do it. Lonny! LONNY! Stop! *all laugh*
Tyler: Alright so on that note, do you get that a lot (of music from fans)? And how do you deal with that?
Sly: Not EXACTLY like that instance.
Lonny: Yah i get people tagging me in their music all the time, and it’s not spam. These are people that genuinely care and it’s awkward. Like getting back to twitter, and the whole twitter rapper thing, with twitter followers it’s awkward. People that know you or have met you and they ask you for like the follow back, i don’t want to be like a dick but i only follow people that have been with me from like early on. Yesterday i was going thru and unfollowing a lot of people, you just gotta ask “Is this person helping me progress in life?” and if that answer is no then you gotta cut them off. They get offended but its like, it’s just social media. I unfollowed someone i was cool with in person and he confronted me about it. Like i would be more offended if i DIDN’T know you in real life and got unfollowed. If you know the person in real life it shouldn’t be an issue.
Sly: Bro, i should’ve coached you guys before going into this. Yall are too honest for the interview, you are supposed to keep it 70%.
Spazzy & Lonny: We keep it 95% bro.
Spazzy gave us his breakdown of how to speak to anyone, only the end matters. This led to more laughs and another break.
Tyler: So what are some of the other social topics and concerns you want to bring up in your music? I know-
Spazzy: RACIAL PROFILING. Police Brutality.
Tyler: You guys just talked about all that on “Twitter Rappers”.
Lonny: That was actually supposed to be “The Riot-Part 3”. I didn’t wanna make any more riot songs tho, because i kind of felt i was taking advantage of a situation just to put out music. The other day someone in real life told me that i rap about the same thing too much, “that i always rap about some racial shit, rap about something else”. That made me think, even tho that’s just what one person thinks, do people not want to hear this?
Spazzy: That’s the thing tho, it’s not what people WANT to hear, it’s what people NEED to hear. Look at the radio.
Sly: Even hip-hop bro, like people like to place drill/trap/radio under fire, but there’s a lot of problems in hip-hop man. I really respect Spazzy and Lonny for how well they speak on racia injustice. Some things i think need to be talked about more and things i try to touch on are; classism, the divide between the lower and upper class and what the middle class is, I think that’s very important and gets swept under the rug often. Politics. Double standards. One of the biggest problems with Hip-hop and black culture is a lot of double standards especially with gender roles. Ya know, there are a lot of issues that hip-hop needs to talk on. Lonny was saying “do people wanna hear what i’m saying?” and Spazzy said it’s not about what they wanna hear but what they need to hear. We are going to step on toes and make people feel uncomfortable. There is a lot of social commentary that needs to happen, and i feel like, gets done really well by this group.
Spazzy: Yah that’s something that i think is really unique with us. We don’t care. It’s genuine, there is a lot of emotion in it. That’s what i admire about these guys, is if something is real, we aren’t afraid to put it out because it’s “too” real. That’s what drives it, i WANT you to feel uncomfortable listening to this. If i can tell you something that can change your views on things, or at least make you re-evaluate, that’s great. That’s something i really admire, the courage that goes into making records like “Twitter Rappers” and “Rich”.
Sly: I actually wanted to talk about “Twitter Rappers” and “Get It”. These are two examples in the past week that show we are serious about what we speak on. We had the spotlight on this collaboration, Spazzy and Lonny are higher than me in terms of buzz, and the fact that we are making moves together and drawing attention from three unique fan bases. We could’ve easily done like a hype track, but instead the first thing Lonny sends me is a real dark slow song with heavy subject matter. I think that really speaks volumes about his character, the kind of message that he wanted to portray in the spotlight, and the fact of how well it was supported. Nobody had an issue about it, and it all flowed so organically shows the integrity of us as a group. THEN, Spazz’s new song “Get It” has this very melodic sound to it that you could fall asleep to if the drums never hit, and then in the hook it has these bed squeaks that get you like “Don’t stop, get it, get it” ya know? It’s hype. But the verse documents two parallels thru conversation. A man is talking to another man (Spazzy) saying “Quit it, we get it, you rap” , talking about how he appreciates the value that gets put into the rap. Like we wanna hear this, and you offering this. My mom, she hates rap, and right now she’s in the kitchen listening to Ashton in her ear-buds. That.s what i love, is you have these people delivering this in a fresh and innovative way. If you want you can listen to the melody, if you want you can listen to the squeaks and get hype, if you want you can listen to the verse and appreciate it at a deeper level and really learn something. We have something for everybody, is what i’m really trying to say.
Tyler: Another question i have, you guys are all connected and pioneering this new movement, do you have plans to stay independent the whole way, or is signing something you keep in the back of your head as like a reach goal?
Spazzy: I’ve always known from the beginning that i would never sign. Especially when i saw that Childish Gambino was bale to make billboards with “3005”, and being the first independent artist to do so really re-assured that. The internet is already a major way of distribution for music. Us being “twitter rappers” is kind of like skipping a step. As being able to access that facet of the internet, where others need the labels and A&R’s to do what we are already doing thru the internet. We already have that advantage, so what do we need a record label for? We can get our music out with the click of a couple of buttons from anywhere to millions of people. It’s going o be a wave and i’m just glad that i get to share this moment in history with these guys.
Sly: Yah man, he said what was important about it really. A label is only as important or relevant to your career as you want it to be or make it. Us being independent, we are going to do more regardless. I can’t speak for them, but i really see us going indie, regardless if labels start coming our way.
Lonny: You better believe i’m signing the first deal i get. *laughs* nah i’ll take the indie route. There might be a select few that yeah i’d sign.
Spazzy: Or if it’s something like an Independent LABEL, like TDE that’s amazing, like you do everything your own way and no answering to nobody. You get all the revenue and having fun with people you love to be around. Prospering doing what you love with who you love. Like that’s true happiness to me, and that’s like a whole different question in itself.
Tyler: Along those lines, what are some of your goals, creatively or in hip-hop or anything?
Lonny: We tryna take over social media.
Sly: No. Lonny’s tryna do that. What SlyRex is tryna do? Is after “Searching for Daisy, the project that drops April 27, *he plugs it again jokingly* make some moves and my ultimate goal is to feature Lana Del Rey on a song.
Spazzy: First off, i want this crib with these guys. Second, i really want to change and break the stereotype of what hip-hop and rap is. If you ask somebody what rap is, it’ll be what they hear on the radio, Migos, Juicy J etc. They aren’t exposed to the whole experience that hip-hop is. So i really want to change the face of hip-hop. Like right now, that’s trap. We are in the trap era. I feel like other areas of hip-hop don’t get enough recognition. That’s what i really wanna do, change the face to the creative side of hip-hop.
Sly: Alright, he wanna be the rap Jesus, Lonny wanna take over the internet, i want a Lana Del Rey feature, my second goal is i want a kiss from SZA.
Lonny: My real goal is to change lives.
Sly: You the corniest nigga Lonny…
Tyler: So to kind of wrap things up, what are some last words of wisdom you might have for the youth? Or anything else that you wanna say or touch on?
Spazzy: Water over everything.
Sly: At the end of the day, for anybody who has this twisted of who we are as individuals or as a collective, it’s all love. I mess with these guys tough as people. When it comes to real life they Ashton and Austin. I talk to these cats everyday and i really appreciate their friendship. So for anybody that got it twisted, it’s all love on this side and i’m really thankful for the opportunity to have this friendship with these guys and it only makes the music better in the end. That’s all i gotta say.
Spazzy: That’s amazing.
Sly: Yah even tho yall ugly, i still appreciate you. *laughs*
Spazzy: Yah, i’m ugly. I’ve embraced it. That’s what i’m gunna leave out on. I’m ugly.
Lonny: That’s gunna be on your tombstone, ” I’m ugly” . *laughs*
Tyler: Any last words from you Lonny?
Lonny: Nah, i don’t know. Be you. or something.
Spazzy: Yah, “Be you.” *mocking Lonny*
Lonny: Sly stole what i was gunna say. I was gunna say exactly that but he took it, like he stole my shine. This whole interview i been sitting here like damn that’s what i was gunna say.
Tyler: That’s good tho, that speaks to your connection and chemistry.
The artists then started playing around again about who was suspect and why. This led to joking about leaking each others tracks.
Lonny: Wait should we ride out to Mangos? Let’s ride out to Mangos.
Spazzy: Yah let’s ride out to Mangos for our first interview. That’s history. That’s iconic.
Lonny: Don’t worry i bookmarked it. I’ll pull it up.
Sly: You’re a horrible person Lonny…
Lonny then hits play and begins dancing goofy and lip singing it.
This led to more goofy banter between us talking about this song and other things. I’m going to leave it out for their — and the fan who made the song’s — sake.
Spazzy: They are horrible people… *shaking head*
Lonny: Yo, do the Spazzy D impression before we get off.
Sly then did an impression of Spazzy on the track “Thirsty” that was almost spot on.
Which led to thanks and appreciation all around.